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Memorial: Loaded language used to guilt inactive treading on Christ'
by truthseeker inoops!
accidentally clicked the post button before i finished the title.. well, just got back from the memorial.
the numbers were a third down for the second time in a row.
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What's more important??
by The Last Nephilim ini'm placing this into the "scandals and coverups" section for good reason, i think.
a few days ago i had an elder and one of "the anointed" come by to encourage my wife and i to "get back to the meetings before it's too late".
i proceeded to tell him a few of the reasons why i've lost confidence in the elders and the organization, and he retorted with a real- life example of how i need to see that although the "brothers" can make mistakes, it's best to accept it as "jehovah's will" and play along.
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The Last Nephilim
bigmouth, I remember that story, only it was a GB member. He told an older GB member to absolutely NOT touch anything on his desk. He arrived later to find his things rearranged neatly and was furious at the other GB member and gave him some counsel about minding his own business or respecting others or somesuch. Later, it was discovered that housecleaning had moved his stuff. He went back and apologized to the other GB member, asking why he didn't defend himself. The other brother just said, "Guilty or not, it was good counsel!"
Well, I'm sorry. I guess I'm just not a "team player". I will NOT bend over and take it in the rear while the guilty parties are shown favoritism. -
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What's more important??
by The Last Nephilim ini'm placing this into the "scandals and coverups" section for good reason, i think.
a few days ago i had an elder and one of "the anointed" come by to encourage my wife and i to "get back to the meetings before it's too late".
i proceeded to tell him a few of the reasons why i've lost confidence in the elders and the organization, and he retorted with a real- life example of how i need to see that although the "brothers" can make mistakes, it's best to accept it as "jehovah's will" and play along.
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The Last Nephilim
bigmouth, I remember that story, only it was a GB member. He told an older GB member to absolutely NOT touch anything on his desk. He arrived later to find his things rearranged neatly and was furious at the other GB member and gave him some counsel about minding his own business or respecting others or somesuch. Later, it was discovered that housecleaning had moved his stuff. He went back and apologized to the other GB member, asking why he didn't defend himself. The other brother just said, "Guilty or not, it was good counsel!"
Well, I'm sorry. I guess I'm just not a "team player". I will NOT bend over and take it in the rear while the guilty parties are shown favoritism. -
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What's more important??
by The Last Nephilim ini'm placing this into the "scandals and coverups" section for good reason, i think.
a few days ago i had an elder and one of "the anointed" come by to encourage my wife and i to "get back to the meetings before it's too late".
i proceeded to tell him a few of the reasons why i've lost confidence in the elders and the organization, and he retorted with a real- life example of how i need to see that although the "brothers" can make mistakes, it's best to accept it as "jehovah's will" and play along.
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The Last Nephilim
bigmouth, I remember that story, only it was a GB member. He told an older GB member to absolutely NOT touch anything on his desk. He arrived later to find his things rearranged neatly and was furious at the other GB member and gave him some counsel about minding his own business or respecting others or somesuch. Later, it was discovered that housecleaning had moved his stuff. He went back and apologized to the other GB member, asking why he didn't defend himself. The other brother just said, "Guilty or not, it was good counsel!"
Well, I'm sorry. I guess I'm just not a "team player". I will NOT bend over and take it in the rear while the guilty parties are shown favoritism. -
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What's more important??
by The Last Nephilim ini'm placing this into the "scandals and coverups" section for good reason, i think.
a few days ago i had an elder and one of "the anointed" come by to encourage my wife and i to "get back to the meetings before it's too late".
i proceeded to tell him a few of the reasons why i've lost confidence in the elders and the organization, and he retorted with a real- life example of how i need to see that although the "brothers" can make mistakes, it's best to accept it as "jehovah's will" and play along.
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The Last Nephilim
bigmouth, I remember that story, only it was a GB member. He told an older GB member to absolutely NOT touch anything on his desk. He arrived later to find his things rearranged neatly and was furious at the other GB member and gave him some counsel about minding his own business or respecting others or somesuch. Later, it was discovered that housecleaning had moved his stuff. He went back and apologized to the other GB member, asking why he didn't defend himself. The other brother just said, "Guilty or not, it was good counsel!"
Well, I'm sorry. I guess I'm just not a "team player". I will NOT bend over and take it in the rear while the guilty parties are shown favoritism. -
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What's more important??
by The Last Nephilim ini'm placing this into the "scandals and coverups" section for good reason, i think.
a few days ago i had an elder and one of "the anointed" come by to encourage my wife and i to "get back to the meetings before it's too late".
i proceeded to tell him a few of the reasons why i've lost confidence in the elders and the organization, and he retorted with a real- life example of how i need to see that although the "brothers" can make mistakes, it's best to accept it as "jehovah's will" and play along.
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The Last Nephilim
bigmouth, I remember that story, only it was a GB member. He told an older GB member to absolutely NOT touch anything on his desk. He arrived later to find his things rearranged neatly and was furious at the other GB member and gave him some counsel about minding his own business or respecting others or somesuch. Later, it was discovered that housecleaning had moved his stuff. He went back and apologized to the other GB member, asking why he didn't defend himself. The other brother just said, "Guilty or not, it was good counsel!"
Well, I'm sorry. I guess I'm just not a "team player". I will NOT bend over and take it in the rear while the guilty parties are shown favoritism. -
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What's more important??
by The Last Nephilim ini'm placing this into the "scandals and coverups" section for good reason, i think.
a few days ago i had an elder and one of "the anointed" come by to encourage my wife and i to "get back to the meetings before it's too late".
i proceeded to tell him a few of the reasons why i've lost confidence in the elders and the organization, and he retorted with a real- life example of how i need to see that although the "brothers" can make mistakes, it's best to accept it as "jehovah's will" and play along.
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The Last Nephilim
I should clarify- the brother telling me this story didn't use the words "play along" but that's how I understood it. I can't be sure, but his exact words might have been that I "need to keep the larger picture in mind and accept the GB's decisions and trust that what's best for everyone will work out." To me, that has the same meaning as "play along" because when it comes down to it, if the GB doesn't do what's right and expects everyone to respect and support their decisions, that's the same as telling us to "play along".
He did say that the guilty parties were DF'd.
Yes, the gist of the story was that since this ONE brother bent over and took it, so should I if it makes the organization look better.
Well, it's almost time to go get ready for the Memorial! After seeing V's YouTube video on how the memorial is basically an infomercial about joining the JWs, I will be watching with a different point of view tonight! I'm still undecided as to whether or not to partake... -
The Last Nephilim
MVP indeed! If not him then LeBron or Chris Paul! I'm tired of the Kobe hype! Without the acquisition of Pau Gasol, Kobe wouldn't even be considered for MVP. Thanks to Gasol, however, the Lakers are better and Kobe gets the credit!??? Puh- leeeease!
I realize the same argument can be made for KG getting the nod for MVP, but look at his numbers compared to Kobe. Heck, Kobe's self- righteous attitude would make him a better candidate for becoming a JW rather than MVP! -
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Flaky JWs drag down the Cong Performance Stats. Doncha' hate that? ;-)
by Open mind insome quick advice for faders re: level of field service activity.
btw, this assumes you have no problem turning in "fluffed up" hours as part of a reverse "theocratic warfare" strategy.
if you really don't care one way or the other whether you turn in a field service report, turn one in at least every 6 months with one hour of "time" on it.
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The Last Nephilim
I think I'm going to start the "irregular" to "inactive" bit for the remainder of my time in the bORG. The thing is, I've only avergaed about one meeting a month for the past few months. Do you think that's enough to keep turning in some time every few months?
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Need quick list of things wrong with JW memorial service!!
by oompa inmy old elders, wife, and son know i have had issues with the servcie and talk for years.
i will start list:.
1. why would i even be there, if i have an earthly hope?.
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The Last Nephilim
cognac, I know EXACTLY what your hubby's going thru!!! I was once assigned to be the reader at a book study to be held in an elder's home a month before the new book study arrangements were to go into effect. Keep in mind that I was only a reader- I was NOT the assistant! We didn't have enough MSs to go around so they decided I could be a reader until I got my appointment. On the Sunday before our first Monday night bookstudy was to begin, I joked with the BS overseer as we were leaving the KH about reading with my jeans on (long story), and he said, "Oh... ah... well, I think Brother So-and-so is going to be our reader." Not only was I livid that the BOE changed their minds and thought it best to NOT let me be the reader, but they weren't even going to tell me! For a month I was allowed to tell people how happy I was to get the privilege all the while I really didn't have it! Instead, they decided that it was best to have an 80 year old elder go to TWO bookstudies a week, one to conduct, and one to assist, that way it would free up an MS to come to our BS to read. The real kicker is that the MS who came is a good friend of mine (we knew each other before we became JWs), and he didn't WANT to read. He told me he'd much rather let me do it! On top of that, the group that meets at the KH lets 2 teenage boys and one 20- something boy rotate as readers- and none of them are MSs!!!! Anyone smell a vendetta here?
OK, not to hijack the thread, but I couldn't resist sharing that!
nomoreguilt- good point about 1Cor11:26! I'm sure if asked, the elders would say, "That's referring to his EARTHLY return..."